Having been put off by the multi user dev environment in previous tests I was reluctant to use it in a 7.8 environment.
However, so far so good. provided everyone plays the game properly then it should be safe to dev across multiple sites.
But there is a catch.
The trick is to get your Projects right to 'Check-out'. But of course you get a chicken and egg situation. You need the rpd set-up first to create the projects!
I'll let you figure that one out.
Thursday, August 21, 2008
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Adrian - We looked at the MDE but thought it too cumbersome. At the moment, we are just developing everything in PROD and sometimes use our local PC for testing RPD changes. Is there are simple model for developing everything in a proper DEV environment and then promoting this to production? There are issues about working in PROD with lots of users connected like they see odbc errors sometimes as it takes ages to save. You can obviously stuff things up if you make a modelling error, so quite a dangerous practice I think but it is very fast to get things done.
I read about copying the whole RPD to prod but what if the RPD has contents like users and groups? Also DEV to PROD webcat copy seems a bit dangerous, especially if you do it at the folder level. There is a way to do in the web admin by backing up and importing that file or you can do online by opening 2 instances of the webcat on different servers. I know there must be answers to these questions. Have been in touch with Jeff McQuigg in the USA who agrees we aren't doing things properly. Oracle don't seem to have too many answers - even hard to get a good trainer. None of these configuration/release management issues are covering in the documentation and they only refer to ADVANCED COURSES where this can be discussed.
I note this comment about MDE and am surprised such a tool and its use in Siebel can have so many issues. I am certain Siebel had DEV environments and promotion to PROD capability. As you say OBI is used in BIG companies where I would have thought this sort of functionality is essential.
Mark Brannigan
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